Wednesday, March 16, 2011

The "left" side of the scene and how to be a "Northampton Band"

I live in such a great little town called Northampton, MA. In case you don't know about "us", check this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northampton,_Massachusetts



Truly, I love Northampton. It’s a great little town with great restaurants, plenty of active music venues, a sense of community and interesting, cool, fashionable, forward thinking and cultured people. Then town is welcoming and looks cool, is usually fun destination and, has a lot of musicians that live here. It doesn't currently have a lot of great music though. While traveling through Craigslist today at work like you were, I came across a post in the “Musicians” community reading something to the effect of “are The Fantasies the best band from Northampton?” Of course I’m going to read that. While their song was pretty cool and catchy, they sounded exactly like I thought they would. It’s not a bad thing to have a “brand”, even if it’s a town. Meaning, I see their name, hear the song, I feel their submliminal sentiment that they are a “Northampton band”, I agree and think, “yeah. It all adds up.”

Problem is, you want it to move you. I want it to move me. C’mon anybody, everybody…would somebody do something new and exciting please? Would you make us want to leave our fucking houses for you please?? You know what I mean…come on! Just fly off the fucking handle for a minute! Don’t be scared or try to fit "the Mold"…anyway, I’m not ripping on The Fantasies because, again, their song is cool and I like how they come out on CL with some assertiveness and shit. Hopefully Northampton can see more of this type of stuff in the near future. I admit, I want to be blown away by a band. I want to be so impressed at how nasty they are that my blood boils. For now, out here in Northampton , it’s just primarily scattered, status quo and self indulgent music, in my opinion, rather than anything really that compelling or on fire.

We have scores of the “amazing” musician types out here forming random bands, playing The Elevens and The Basement…maybe playing at The Ironhorse? Oh yeah, another thing, people can stop trashing IHEG. You most likely don’t really know what you’re talking about. Their shows are exciting and if you just stop fucking whining for a minute about Eric S and just work with the guy things end up pretty cool)? …I digress. The “Northampton Bands” have witty, ironic names. The musicians dress trendy, they have quirky, clever banter, they may watch films many people have never heard of, they may listen to music within un-admitted parameters of “culture” and/or parameters of obscurity. They also do listen to really good music. I love it. I really prefer this environment and it’s “living” nature. But so much is missing…The overall sincerity, the overall authenticity? Sure we want to belong and be “cool”. We want to be accepted but the world awaits your music!...wait a second…WOW! The new Strokes album is really good…second listen in progress. Many people out here would not admit to liking The Strokes for example. They’re (The Strokes) too mainstream to be “cool” out here regardless of how good their music is. Anyway, I digress once again. Thankfully a very small number of bands and/or artists around here actually have some manner of vision and something real to say. Just not enough of them.


I hate to generalize but many of us either overtly or covertly acknowledge and know what a “Northampton Band” is. It’s a folky-indie-ironic-shoegazing-musical-collaboration-with-a few-moderately-to-well-known-local-musicians-with trendy-clothes-often-exchanging-instruments-on-stage-and also-using-vintage-instruments-while-playing-technically-good-music-that-often-times-I-like-and-more-often-times-I-don’t-but-they-won’t-even-be-a fucking-band-in-six-months-so-who-cares-but-then-they-come-back-with-another-mixture-of-musicians-destined-to-be perceived as yet, another “Northampton Band”. Or they just sound like a revival of something that has been done and is being done to death. Lame.

I’m not trashing the many great people I’ve met in my time of residing here–some of whom are in “Northampton Bands”–I love them. I’m talking about the closed up people hiding behind their pretense and faking it. Out here we are on the “left side” of the “scene” where things are all love and kindness, not really though. Here, things are perceived as “amazing” and we have a notable wealth of “amazing” and talented musicians –maybe we do? We just don’t have an “amazing” amount of real artists right now. And nobody sticks to their guns. And nobody tries. And nobody cares but we still walk around as if we’re some enchanted artists who are just flowing in our art…but no, not really. We’re just trying to be accepted and everybody’s doing it so…forget about when the going gets tough. We don’t even come out of the bubble because we know it could get tough. Our friends will still come out for a few weeks more, but in fewer numbers soon…they’ll get bored like we do. We quit and just hype the next collaboration for a few months to feel fulfilled and alive. But we never had to stop. If we really mean what we are projecting we could drop the pretense just create, and stand by it. I admit, I just want to be moved by music. Bjork once said “Unless you feel like you would die without it you’re faking it.” Clear?

I just hope some more of us "amazing" musicians get something going that is just super-hot in any way–any genre-and then just stand by it for awhile. Extend your vision past Northampton MA. Show the Eastern Seaboard your music, show the USA, show the world and stop thinking of your music in terms of “Northampton”. I think it’s sad that, in the “new" music industry we are in the midst of, more people don’t realize the massive opportunities that exist, we don't realize that it is a "level playing field" for the open, honest, passionate and “on fire” songwriters and bands. But first you’ll need to get past the haze of comfort that sleeps with you here and reach out past your friends opinions. I, for one, would love to hear it if you do.

~ZFJ

19 comments:

jf said...

ZFJ, I don't know if you were around here when it happened, but Eric S. strip mined the venues around here in the name of money, not art. Not cool.
On a positive note: any time there is dissent-in this case dissenting against dissenters(?)-you have a revolution. I hope what ever comes out of this stagnant atmosphere will even get someone as jaded as my self to go to shows.
Rise above my friend.
Cool local blog: http://wellfednoise.blogspot.com/

Zero Fun John said...

Jer,

Thanks and thanks...my point about Eric S is that we have worked with him and we realize that it is US who is bringing the revenue to HIM. He is not doing us a favor because we can take our show anywhere we want. We have asked for considerations from him before and he has worked with us. He is just a businessman who runs the major music venues out here and when approached with a sensible "business" idea, he is responsive. While I trust your insight and opinion, I don't understand how he strip mined venues around here? There are many venues putting up music daily. My issue is with the musicians that indeed are very talented but just continue on with the excuse making, the whining, the non-committal aproach to their "art" and the coddling that this great area provides. Rather than push, believe and create that which really moves them, they just whine about Eric S or whatever else will support their arguments. I just want to be moved by music and I do this through whatever means possible...just seems like people out here could really do a little more to warrant the outside impression that we have an "amazing" music scene and/or talent pool rather than just huddling up with their like-minded, excuse making pals and go for it! We could do great things...man, I am some kind of warrior!!

~ZFJ

Static said...

Heh! You ain't kiddin' man. There is very little to (okay, let's be honest here) no fucking originality in music for the most part anymore. Although I don't know much about the Northampton scene, I'm more familiar with Boston, and have lived in Providence for about 8 years. I can honestly say I've not heard much original music around them parts either.

There are some decent acts around. Bands that I would go out to see if they were playing on a night I was available, or felt like going out to see them, and pay a cover charge. But none that are all that original. There is little originality. There are no risk takers that are all that prominent.

There are some, most likely, who are probably playing covers in coffee houses or some hole in the wall bar to make ends meet, while they humbly hone their craft in the comfort of their basement studios..and maybe, on occasion they are fortunate enough to sell a few disks or mp3 singles here and there.

I think this can be attributed to audiences/demographics being too concerned with:

1) The past--but exactly how many times can you hear the same old "Play That Funky Music" shit, or the same old Boston songs or "Freebird" played..over.and.over.AGAIN? Apparently enough to make you puke. Unless waxing nostalgic is your thing--in that case, put on your fur coat, your spandex, and Aqua Net the fuck out of your hair for a night!

AND/OR

2) It's simply the latest hipster/emo/trendy fad package in skinny jeans (that still appears 80s-ish) and has that immediacy that plebes so desperately need--those pretentious-music snobs-that have limited musical tastes-and are generally clueless about the roots of their musical tastes-so much so that they could never truly be considered musical connoisseurs-more than they are hobo fashionistas du jour-with their all too common simply must-have lists-who simply resemble unkempt crack whores that spent a weekend partying with Charlie Sheen. Amirite?

3) Those that are into the same old shit we've seen in the last 10-20 years in the hip hop/house music scene. Which is just a slight cultural revision of what I mentioned before.

4) Those that are still stuck in their creepy goth, Graver, or juggalo/juggalette phase, that includes just a little more extreme versions of the cultural revisions I mentioned before.

Okay, so maybe my demographic observations are too narrow...but judging by the looks of things, I don't think so.

Btw, I found your blog through your Craigslist ad. I wouldn't have bothered to comment if I didn't appreciate your writing style or commentary, so kudos. Advertising does work! Best wishes.

- Static

Zero Fun John said...

Static,

I think I love you! Seriously, thanks for the good words. It's just that: Originality. Combined with some kind of fire inside that forges the music to just come out like...you. I've experienced Boston/Providence "scenes" in the last few years and I agree with your sentiments/thoughts...oh well, for my part, I'm gonna keep making music with the fellas in my band and keep searching for the other stuff that moves me.

Cheers.

~ZFJ

Zero Fun John said...

Below is a comment posted by a reader that appeared on my FB Band page:

"Nicely written, but I've read similar complaints for years. And yet most bands are very different from each other. The problem with your piece is that you trash a lot of stuff and then back-pedal, saying "it's not the people I know." Then w...ho are the bands in "trendy clothes"? Who are the phonies? Let's name names. If you're going to call people out for lack of conviction, best not leave it nebulous.

Also, it's a dangerous game to question people's motives. You say some aren't making music for the right reasons. Right according to whom? And how do you know what their motives are? Or that they are playing it safe and trying to be "cool"? Maybe they are just making music they love the best way they know how, and it seems "Northamptony" to you.

Also: If you want challenging music around here, why not make some yourself? Or, maybe you think you already do, and that's cool. But then it makes your own motives for writing this a bit suspect. Why not just say, "my band makes more sincere, bold and urgent music than those safe 'Northampton-type' bands." if you feel that way (and I'm not saying you do or don't) there is no shame in stating that.

No offense intended by this reply. I just felt the above issues needed to be brought up. I look forward to a healthy debate, if that occurs."

"I hope the above post moves my CBR-SBR ranking up a bit. I felt slighted last time."

Zero Fun John said...

George,

(In reference to the previous comment I reposted)

My opinions are just that. Opinions. I hear the same things from people outside of our community in regards to "Northampton Bands". Maybe I'm just the messenger here trying to stir up excitement? Maybe I just want to stir things up in general because in my opinion, it needs to be? Maybe I just see what I see? I would rather call out a social perspective (shared by many people I know) than to call out people directly for just trying to enjoy themselves and play music the way they want to. I have no issue with that. I have issues with the pretense that precedes some people, issues with excuse making, issues with self-serving/self-indulgent people -I have every right to. I do contribute to the music around here and have for years. In my band we do what WE do. We try to put a good light on everyone involved in shows we organize, try to make things "good" for everyone involved -we look out for the other guy is what I'm getting at...it just feels like people have extremely limited "vision" around here and my efforts are only to kick some talented people in the ass to hopefully get them to assist in making our environment exciting, fresh and generally awesome. It is stagnant right now, in my opinion. My reply to you is only meant to say, I don't hate anyone, I don't think I am the judge nor do I want to be. People rarley succeed alone. I'm just an advocate for making things "better" for all of us through working together and stepping it up a bit. I feel that too many people do not care about the actual community that can exist here and can result in a fulfilling, exciting and fun new environment for everybody.

Thanks again for your comment.

~ZFJ

jf said...

ZFJ-as we all know that E.S. is a businessman, he dealt a deathblow to the punk and hardcore music community by discontinuing 'hardcore Sundays' at Pearl Street. This all but left any band that was travelling or any local upcoming band with NO place to play. This was back in '98 or '99. The reason? Not making enough money for the trouble.
So these were not 'whiny little artists,' he fucked over a LOT of people for the cash on that one.
BTW: hardcore and punk shows on Sundays have been a staple in Western Mass. since well before my time with place like: Pulaski Club, The Zone, Katina's/Vertex and lastly Pearl Street.I believe it's moved to The Waterfront and sometimes the VFW in Florence. Pearl Street was also an awesome and powerful local venue that has sadly gone to shyte because of 'business.' I hope this sheds some insight.

Zero Fun John said...

Jer,

I understand how you feel with your sentiments about E.S. Thing is, if a venue isn't making money on a night -no matter what the genre- it gets shut down. They've got to pay the rent, the employees, the utilities etc. If bands can't put enough people in there for whatever reason then it is bound to end. This is actually a large part of the foundation for my whole post on this.

Many bands operate under the "my-music-is-so-pure-empassioned-and-real-and-I-should-be-allowed-to-play-anywhere-because-of-it." Nope. Clubs will book you then expect you to bring people to their club, which is why they booked the show. Bands seem to either, ignore this fact or just don't consider it at all and it causes apathy, finger pointing, resentment and whatever else as a result. AND also as a result, the amount of venues offering live music, and PAYING the bands, dwindle. It is not E.S, The Elevens, Brass Cat's or any other venues issue if they can't book bands anymore...9 out of 10 time it is because the bands just don't do their part to make the club money.

The lack of promotion that venues provide is entirely a separate issue.

We are in a "new" music industry where opportunities are actually more abundant for the quality bands. However, bands/artists will have to get some grasp on the dreaded "business" part of things by either taking matters into their own hands (my preferred route) or finding someone that will do this for them, or they will not get to where they want (relative terms here). This includes booking shows and/or theme nights such as you referenced with Pearl Street. ANY band of ANY genre has opportunities to play almost anywhere if they can have it 1) make sense to the venue, 2) bring their fans to the show and 3) are a "quality" act (another relative term).

For example, I just booked Trash Bar in Brooklyn easily. I called the booking agent, explained to him that we usually draw between 35-55 people in NYC, and have two bands that currently live in NYC looking to do a show together. I presented him with a show that will draw 50-100 people and it was booked within minutes on a preferred night. This is all I am talking about. It makes sense for us bands AND for the venue. Nobody owes anyone any favors and, unfortunately every venue/club is under the gun to make money "or else".

That's all I meant when referring to E.S. He has worthwhile venues that are easily accessible to bands -if it makes sense for everyone involved. A lot of bands and people around here point fingers at him saying he ruined things. I dont agree. The attitudes of musicians around here have made things stagnant and I'd like it to change.

Anyway, thanks for the comments! We need to get a beer(s) soon.

~ZFJ

Static said...

ZFJ,

You're welcome. Gosh, I feel like we have some kind of budding bromance here or something. Methinks it's the beginnings of a beautiful relationship.

If I may clarify: Although I was mostly kidding about some of what I said, I think that there is some truth in it. Originality is missing. It doesn't need to be super difficult, complex, bizarre, weird, or abstract to be original either. I think that our musical influences are always going to come out in our playing--so few things are ever completely original--but that doesn't mean that we should not try, or dare to be different.

End of rant. :)

Static said...

p.s. keep making music however you see fit. Expression feeds the soul.

Anonymous said...

ZFJ,
I have lived in northampton for 14 years now and I can say I like the way things are. Your band is a joke. It seems everything is about business with you guys. I've never played in a band but many of my friends bands got completely ripped off by eric. The only reason you're not affected by this is because the shows you do for him don't involve your fans paying the steep cover. Let's be honest, your "sellout" at the IH was a buy out. I came to that show to see yucky, i bought a ticket at the door and at no time was that place near capacity. There was a good crowd that night but like every other show i've seen you guys play it's not your fans. I'm not even sure you really have any. I've been watching you guys since you moved here from westfield. The most interesting thing about your band is your delusions and rhetoric. Your music is unoriginal and uninspiring. Every song starts with a trendy vibe, the "singer" starts his monotone barking and before any good part of the song comes along it ends. Swillmerchants have added/lost more members than most of these "Northampton Bands". You and the singer are only two original members! Your "call to arms" speech here is only self-serviing. Youre just looking for the next gbne, yucky, DPR band to leech off of. Make your own scene and leave northampton alone. If you really think eric is a fair guy than you have no business being here.

-A face in the crowd

jf said...

keep making music however you see fit. Expression feeds the soul.

Thanks 'static,' this one will keep me going through this grey, cold day.

jf said...

ZFJ-we haven't heard from you in a while. I miss your irreverent humor and your anecdotes.
I hope it's because you have been busy and not because of the low blow you were dealt by 'anonymous.'
Internet fighting is one of the lowest forms of humanity-we all know that.
We are all adults here, we all have different tastes and ideas of what is right an wrong for us. i can tell you that i may disagree with who you work for but if i can speak for those of us who use rationale in any discussion, an attack on your personal ideals was uncalled for. I cannot believe the nerve of someone-who cannot even show their name as we all do-to call you, your band or your career out like it's some kind of joke. It's completely disrespectful to anyone who has an informed opinion and it's just plain mean. We all came to our own conclusions on your post, learned and moved on. To have this thrown in your face by someone you will see publicly is playground fighting at it's best.
I hope i'm speaking for all of us when i suggest you soldier on and give us some more of that ZFJ we have come to know and love.
And 'anonymous,' I received your message on my blog, thank you for that. But did you really have to go as far as you did with what you wrote? Couldn't you have just agreed to disagree? What did ZFJ ever do to you?
(Now stepping off soapbox.)

Zero Fun John said...

Jer,

Hello. I am back…been mourning the loss of a friend.

Anonymous,

Since your post is so riddled with idiocy and uniformed opinions I want to make this disclaimer first: I’m not on a soapbox for Eric Suher. I just don’t think he is some evil entity who has come here to destroy music. I also don’t make excuses for things and have worked with him before and it was fine. That’s it, no “allegiance” to him. No “kickbacks” or whatever else your little brain could dream up.

Now, onto the fun stuff.

“Your band is a joke. It seems everything is about business with you guys.”

Well, no. It isn’t. It is all about our music you idiot. That is why we learned about and pay attention to ALL aspects of being a DIY band -including the business parts of it. We do this so we can continue to flourish and perform our music on our terms. More bands should do this. Fuck you.

“Let’s be honest, your “sellout” at the IH was a buyout. I came to that show to see Yucky, I bought a ticket at the door and at no time was that place near capacity. There was a good crowd that night but like every other show I’ve seen you guys play it’s not your fans.”

Well. Not exactly. Yucky sold 29 tickets in advance and we ended up taking the majority back from them, we presold 145. Fuck you. BTW I love the band Yucky Octopus and think they’re great guys.


“I’ve been watching you guys since you moved here from Westfield.”

Not one member of Swillmerchants, past or present is from Westfield. Also, thanks for following us for so long…the mark of a true “fan”.

“The most interesting thing about your band is your delusions and rhetoric. Your music is unoriginal and uninspiring.”

Your opinion is noted AND appreciated but we’re among the least delusional that I’ve met and, yes, we have awesome rhetoric.

“Swillmerchants have added/lost more members than most of these “Northampton Bands”. You and the singer are the only two original members! Your call to arms speech here is only self serving. You’re just looking for the next gbne, yucky or DPR band to leech off of.”

Rich and I started with a vision and we continue with that vision even though other members have moved on. That’s commitment my friend, it would be easier to hang it up, quit or just start over when the going gets tough but, we press on. The name stays the same and the some of the members change. The band started with just Rich and I anyway, just writing music and we evolved into wanting a full band. We still evolve and still write our music as a reflection our lives evolution –to sum it up for you. I wish we could have “leeched” off the bands you mentioned but we’re too busy making things happen and inviting aforementioned bands, among others, to join us because we like them. Other than DPR, we also out-draw them. My issue? Self serving, pretentious, excuse making bands and people. Fuck you.

“Make your own scene and leave Northampton alone. If you really think Eric is a fair guy than you have no business being here.”

Is this about your hatred of my band or your hatred of Eric? I do work to nurture what some would call a scene. Myself and Rich are always conscious of other people and how they could benefit from what we do and, I can truly say we give a shit about things and are rarely just thinking of ourselves. Hence, this post which was designed to get people like you all pissed off. Now, I don’t really care about people’s opinions of our music because we simply write what WE like and believe in, some will love and some will hate…that’s the way of the world. However, I do think Eric is a fair guy when approached with assertive, sensible propositions because, that is my experience with him. Unfortunately, I can tell that you are someone who I “know” –not that you’re an informed someone, but someone who knows me just the same. So, get over your unhealthy infatuation with my band and go ahead and introduce yourself to me and tell me that I have no business being here.

~ZFJ

Bernard St.Onge said...

So many things to comment on... I guess I will just hit on one or two as I have to prepare for another round of playing "Funky Music" tonight... That will translate to dollars for me BTW! Yes I am helping to "ruin" our own little scene! (Original purists embrace your anger here:)

I have to more or less side with ZFJ on his thoughts. I will also go as far as to say that most bands DO NOT know a thing about business and/or care to take the time to learn.

Clubs of all sizes are businesses that are largely privately owned. Often times they represent the owners sole income. That person has every right to be careful about any and all investments they make. I don't care if you are an original, cover, or tribute act... IF you can't put asses in the seats why should a club owner, booking agent, manager, etc... continue to sacrifice money they NEED when they have nothing to show for it except for more debt. Nine times out of ten bands don't get booked (or re-booked) because of this one simple fact. I guarantee that consistent numbers at shows will eventually translate to more bookings and even more dollars. Having said that there is work to be done. Do the Facebook thing, record a demo (a good demo, not a youtube video), take quality promo shots, talk to everybody you know about you band, play for free if you need to (there's still a payoff if your bands has a venue and people are there). IF you are somebody who is truly passionate about your art, doing these things will be no problem regardless of the time it takes. None of these are my invented rules or a new idea.

Example: I recently drifted onto Phish's website and started reading through their career timeline. Now there is an example of an original band putting in the hard work. From the start they knew that they needed to make it happen on their own. They made their flyers, financed their demos, played covers (shocker!), played free, played with other bands, and (my favorite) showed up early for every show to make sure the soundcheck translated into a quality live delivery of the music they loved so much! It was a slow climb but it obviously worked out for them...

Note: My comments are based on my years of dealing with fellow musicians from both original and cover bands. I also feel no need to throw anybody under the bus, but I do have specific musicians I am thinking of... I wish I didn't though!

Anonymous said...

Had a great laugh yesterday. I was talking to someone who is friends with a "typical northampton" band you asked to play your CT CD release party with. Story goes that on the heels of your "sell out" the iron horse you guys decided you needed another CD release in CT. After telling them this club was awesome and you guys bring a shit load of people with you they were excited and almost honored you had asked them to play. In typical Swillmerchants fashion the show was a complete bust with only a couple people actually at the show. The band later decided to laugh about it instead of cry. ROTFL!! BTW please please post a picture of the crowd at your trash bar show, I can't wait to see the 75 people you guys bring, LOL!

Unknown said...

Anonymous,

I am glad that your days are consumed with hatred of my band. You seem like a real "cool" person. Truth is, there are many people who talk trash about my band. People trying to "figure us out"...people who don't understand what we do/who we are...Many people who say nice, sweet things too...

see, when your the band people are talking about -one way or the other- there surely is something to it. We're just guys who like doing what we do and keep doing it.

Your contempt and jealousy is obvious but you don't seem to know what you're talking about. Why, even my response to your comments must be one of the biggest things going on in your life right now. I'm glad to help but, again, big talk such as you're reaching for is always cool in my book. Just not under an "anonymous" tag.

Stand up for yourself and your statements, introduce yourself. I put my thoughts out here to the world for you to live off of, at least let us all know who you are. Then again, I'm sure that you have nothing I want so I really don't care who you are.

~ZFJ

rich tardy said...

gone are the days that i was interested in arguing online with anonymous people about local music. but even during my most competitive, jealous, or spiteful phases i would never call anyone's band a joke or disrespect what they were trying to do. and never have i cared when people hate our band or can't stand what we are trying to do. i don't speak for zfj and this is his forum, but i do know that all i try to do and have ever tried to do when booking a show or being put on a show it make sure the room is a full as possible and that people have a good time, all the bands get to play in front of a decent crowd and the club makes money. not at all an easy task especially playing locally for 5 years and getting people to come out and spend their night and their money seeing unsigned bands. i am excited as hell with the album we are writing and recording and can't wait to put on more shows to play it. i take no exception to anyone hating it, that is their right. but i do take exception to comments like us leeching off of bands. we have always tried to play shows with bands we like and bands like gbne and the next extension were having a real hard time getting shows in ma. shit, yucky is my favorite local band ever and that is why i wanted them on the cd release show, even though our friends gbne would have sold many more tickets than them and were upset that we didn't ask them to play it. and for the record, jimmy, owner of the backstage bar in groton, who we love and love playing his club, was the one who insisted on us calling the show at his club our cd release show even though in no way was it ever planned to be such. hell, we have never brought a huge crowd to his place, but god damn does he take good care of us and loves to have us back. i suppose that's all i have to add. now back to stare blankly at my decimated ncaa tournament bracket.

Unknown said...

great. now I have to create an account.

The only thing we "laughed" about was the quality of the strippers next to Jimmy's place, and the amount of patron Jimmy made me drink after the show.

For anyone who knew the guys in GBNE, we're all about having a good time, a "party band" if you will. Every band has had amazing shows and terrible shows, it's all about how you handle them and what memories you take away from each. And for the record, the swills definately "opened the legs" of the whore that is western mass clubs for us.

Oh and yes Rich, we are still pissed we didnt play that show you fucker! jk.

Love and Kisses,
Josh from GBNE, now from UnluckyMe.(oh my god they started a "new band" with the usual suspects, oh the horror!)